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THE STRATEGO MESSAGE BOARD

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February, 2004

Ed,

I just visited your site for the first time and honestly loved it. I was here for at least an hour, reading some strategies and piece placement tips.

Interestingly enough, I just recently became involved with the game, about a week ago. I tried to develop some regular strategies of myself, and so far have been quite successful with them. I will be sending some of them to you soon, you can be sure!

Still in awe of your site's greatness.

Ryan Elliott

March, 2004

I just found this blurb from the San Francisco Chronicle...

Tuesday, May 27, 2003

If you're going to label your personal Web site as the "Number One Stratego Site on the Internet," you better be able to back it up. And darn it if www.edcollins.com/stratego doesn't come through. From Ed's two-part history of the classic board game to his surprisingly deep strategy guide, he undoubtedly will meet your Stratego needs...

Peter Hartlaub

Wow! Thanks Peter. - Ed

March, 2004

Hello Ed,

First of all my compliments for your Stratego site. I use to play Stratego with friends when I was in my teens and I have enjoyed it enormously. Recently I have visited a Toy Museum in Italy and I was surprised to see a very old Stratego board dating the early 1900s. The figure of the pieces are printed on a carton, the cartons are then clipped on metal stands. Names on the board are all in French. So it would be interesting to understand this earlier part of Stratego history definitely it did not start in 1961.

Best Regards,

Corrado

March, 2004

Hi Ed,

Great site!

I have a very old game of Stratego I just purchased at a yard sale.  It is made by Jumbo, and has wooden pieces and a very old box.  The writing looks to be German or Dutch on the box.  I thought you might like to see this for your web site info.   Looks to be from the 30's or 40's.  Feel free to copy the pics for your web site :)   You can see pics here:  

http://home.cogeco.ca/~collies22/stratego1.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/~collies22/stratego2.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/~collies22/stratego3.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/~collies22/stratego4.jpg
http://home.cogeco.ca/~collies22/stratego5.jpg  

Jennifer (an old time player of Stratego!)

March, 2004

G'day Ed,

I bought a second hand computer Stratego game, however it did not come with instructions, it sat in my cupboard for a year or so.

Yesterday, in a second hand shop I found an Australian edition in good condition. (I'm not sure if it is 1956 or 1986. It has plastic pieces so it is probably '86.) Anyway, my daughter and soon found the instructions and we enjoyed two games last night. Now I am going to download the computer edition.

If you like I will photograph and send you the cover, since it does not look like any I have seen on your site.

All the best.

Chris

April, 2004

Ed,

I just re-visited your site - great job!

I recently purchased a Stratego set for my daughter's 11th birthday, and I noted your gripes about the new sets. I never had this game as a youngster (but my wife did - used to whip up on her brothers regularly), however, I did play a lot of AH battle games as a teen, and it does not strike me at all odd that the piece values are inverted from their historical RANK order - the new numbers are equivalent to an ATTACK strength; the higher value wins! My daughters have no trouble with this either, as they are both experienced Pokemon masters! Anyway, you may have heard this line form others, but I just thought I'd add my dos centavos, and also let you hear again that your work is appreciated.

TimZ

April, 2004

Hello,  

First of all I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Stefan and I'm from the Netherlands. I have a question and I wanted to say something about a special Dutch version of Stratego. My compliments for your site! It's really nice ;-) .

Well, my question. I have heard that their would be a very special edition of Stratego, which you can compare with the Franklin Mint edition of Monopoly. Do you know something about this version and do you have perhaps an photo?

I also wanted to tell you something about a special Dutch version of the game. Below you can see a picture. It's a commercial edition. It was for free when you purchased a couple of beers. Both parties only have 12 pieces to play with and the rules are changed a little.

April, 2004

Hi Ed -

GREAT site! 

I didn't read all of the posted messages, but I wanted to throw in a little Stratego trivia.  Hope it didn't already get posted.  In the TV series "The X-Files" there is a scene where Fox Mulder's sister is abducted by aliens.  Right before the abduction, the two of them are shown playing Stratego on their living room floor. If you have ever played this classic board game, you recognize it instantly.  There's a pretty good chance that if you liked this show, you'd like a game like Stratego and vice versa.

Again, awesome website.

Marlon Schmelling

June, 2004

Dear Mr. Collins,

Allow us to introduce ourselves; we are three computer-science student from the Netherlands. Currently we are finishing one of our school projects. In this project we are making a Stratego game as a computer game. The game is called JStratego3D. We've made it really nice using an Artificial Intelligence Opponent, entertaining music, multilingual support and an 3D interface. We've used some of your initial piece setup on your webpage for our AI to use. We've also used your piece logo's. We hope you don't mind. So why did we sent you an e-mail? We would just like you to know that your site helped a great deal in the development of this game. We already mentioned the logo's and piece setups, but also the rules where very helpful. We would like you to try our game and tell us what you think about it.

We have a website at which you can download the game.  We hope you would take a look at

http://tsunami.mackatack.com.

Hoping to be hearing from you soon.

Tsunami Group
Jeroen Baartmans

June, 2004

Hi Ed,  

Just a quick e-mail to say, "Wow, what a site!"  I make regular visits even though it isn't updated that often.  

I smile when I read about the complaints and opinions on the ranking and numbering system. To my knowledge, and as you may have noticed yourself, European versions published by Jumbo have never used numbers to rank the pieces! The set I have from 1991 uses only pictures, with stars to signify the higher ranking pieces. I believe you have such a set - the one with the cross against the Marshal. I've been trying to find out the date of the graphics used on these pieces, as they are still used today in Europe.   You may wish to note this on your site, though I realize the history is that of the game in the US.   The Star Wars and Lord of the Rings versions which I have use numbers though, but I think it makes things easier and is necessary in those cases.  

Please keep up the good work!  

Kevin Fairbrother
Nottingham UK.

July, 2004

I just visited your fantastic Stratego site.  I was amazed to see that in your history of the game you dated the beginnings to 1961. That may be true for the United States, but I used to play it fanatically in the Netherlands when I was around 11 or 12, which would have been around 1947-48.  The pieces were colorfully printed strips of cardboard on a wooden base.

Alexander Silbiger

July, 2004

Hello,

I do not know if I overlooked your site but I did not notice the clone Reveal your Rank on your site. If not here is a software review of the program for Windows, PocketPC, and WindowsCE.

http://www.hpcfactor.com/reviews/software/reveal-your-rank/default.asp

http://www.yellowgames.com/

Thanks.

John

July, 2004

The following url is to download a Stratego clone for Macintosh:

http://johnw.freeshell.org/Stratega/

You may find it useful for your website.

John

August, 2004

Hi,

I've just discovered your Stratego' website. It's amazing!  I never imagined so much possibilities to change this great game.

I would like to ask you two things:

1) I developed a c++ Windows version of Stratego playable online and on a local network. When it's finished, would you like to test it and put it on your website?

2) In this online version I would like to put the game's variants I've found on you website. Can I do so, as long as I write in my program that all these variants come from your website?

I hope you will understand soon, but with such a wonderful website I understand you receive many new mails every day.

Thanks you very much.

Nicolas Nachtergaele
DeepBlue Software

September, 2004

Ed,

I just found your Stratego site, as I was looking for information on this game I had so much fun with as a kid.  My wife and I just recently moved, and we've found ourselves with lots of children among our new neighbors, so we're trying to think of fun things to do with them.  I remember playing countless games of Stratego with one of my nephews, and we both loved it.

Anyway, I have a pretty simple question: I'm a professional woodworker (link below), and I was wondering it you think there might be a market for super deluxe Stratego games with much larger wooden pieces and a wooden board. (I'm thinking of a 24x24-inch board, and pieces between 3 and 4 inches tall.)  I would have to call the game something else, obviously, to keep from running into legal problems, but I could easily come up with several variants of the rules (and possibly pieces), and then let it be known that you can also play plain old Stratego with the set.

I haven't thought a lot about pricing, but I'm sure I could make and sell these for a lot less than I could chess sets, thanks to the pieces all being the same size and shape.  I'm not sure how I'd do the images on the pieces--possibly burned in?

Thanks for your fun site, and please let me know what you think of the idea when you get a chance.

Take care,

Lou
www.grinzo.com

October, 2004

Greetings,             

I just wanted to send a note of appreciation to you in regards to your Stratego web site. I started playing in the late seventies with my grandfather and those games remain to this day as some of my favorite gaming experiences. I still play games (Advanced Squad Leader mainly) but haven't had a regular Stratego game in a long time. A few years ago I had a weekly opponent but now my games are all on the computer (vs. computer as compared to player vs. player).     

Since you've noted and researched the history (good job! Bravo!) I was wondering if you knew the reasoning for changing the numbering system? I was invited to play it once and was completely turned off by it. Why did they change this?     

I'm currently searching for copies of the 1975-85 version in mint (dare I say shrink-wrapped?) copy of the game. My original copy is somewhere in my storage unit and at the moment not very accessible - it would require unpacking my entire unit to find! I'm interested in starting a collection of other sets as well. I recently found a few folks who showed an interest in playing the game again and aside from having a mint set I'd like to find one that's in good condition for traveling with it. My friends who are interested in playing the game again aren't very internet friendly so I'll most likely assist them in acquiring sets as well. They both want the old sets although they're willing to play on the board I prefer.

I hope to hear from you soon and thank you for such a wonderful web site!

Edward J. Kemp
San Diego, CA.

October, 2004

Greetings yet again!

I hope you don't mind the numerous e-mails but it's nice to find another Stratego fan and especially one who knows as much as you do! I've learned a lot from your history page and I wasn't aware of several sets existence.

I have a few more comments (if I could unsend the last two e-mails I would compile them! Sorry!) I thought you'd be interested in more information regarding the Michael Graves Edition. Michael Graves is actually an architect and his web site is

http://www.michaelgraves.com.

I already sent him an e-mail and I think we all should asking if he'd consider making a new version that utilizes the original and preferred numbering system. I really want to buy the set he sells but I can't stand the current numbering system as I was raised with the original (as mentioned) and to this day when I have played Stratego on the PC or in person I refuse to play the new system as it annoys me.

I'd support a letter writing campaign as long as it was done by the proper people. I've seen too many people do more harm than good by one person sending a rude letter when they didn't get their way. Sad but true!     

Naturally, I sent a very courteous and professional e-mail request. I thought I'd let you know his web address (his e-mail addresses are there as well as there are different ones for each department) I'd like to hear what you think. I'll try not to send any more e-mails until I hear back from you so I don't overload your mailbox :-) but I would like to discuss a few Stratego projects with you.

Thanks again! Your web site is great!  

Edward J. Kemp
San Diego, CA.

February, 2005


Ed, 

Congratulations on a fantastic web site. I have been a huge Stratego fan since I was a kid and always bugged my sister, friends and Boy Scout Troop to play. 

I absolutely agree, the ranks of the pieces should be Marshal though Spy, 1 through S. The newer versions are in poor judgment and would no doubt confuse me.  Case in point, the three #2 labels shown in the current game you posted a picture of.  There should be 1 #1, 1 #2, 2 #3's and so on - why try to fix what isn't broken. 

My Stratego experience was with the 1975 & 1986 editions of the game, as well as with Electronic Stratego.  I would love to play with the wood pieces and also try the 3 or 4 person game. 

Thank you for a very informative and detailed website. It brings back numerous memories and reminds me why I fell in love with this game all those years ago.

Thank you and best of luck in your future games.


John Doyle

April, 2005

I've never played Stratego, but as kids growing up in England we used to play with my father's 1930s L'Attaque and Tri-Tactics sets. They had the numbers what I would call the 'proper' way round - with 10 for Field Marshal etc. L'Attaque was great, but Tri-Tactics took too long and was over-complicated.
 
The pieces are made of cardboard on metal stands... and have been improved with the odd coffee stain.
 
Enjoyed your site - especially the hints.
 

Peter

June, 2005

Hello Mr.Collins!

First I want to congratulate you for your fabulous STRATEGO website. It's really well designed and informative.

I'd like to show you two game variants that I have.  There is the official Greek "NEA EKDOZI STRATEGO" version with red and black(!) plastic playing pieces with picture stickers on it. It's quite a cheap production where the pieces easily fall down.  Instructions are in Greek only.  It is dated 1997.

The other one is a German Combo-Set called "SALVO/STRATEGO - 2 strategische Spiele zu Lande und zur See" which includes a small travel Stratego and a sea battle game.  Instructions are in German only.  I obtained this set in the 1970s.

So long for now,

Norman Pelz




July, 2005

Hi,

I did a search online and found your Stratego website. I'm a 36 year old IT professional. I've been playing Stratego since I was a kid. My mom and my uncle taught me the game. They were true masters and had many heated battles. I learned from the best and now I am the master. Neither of them can beat me at it anymore... not that we play much these days. I've met a handful of other players over the years and handed them each a beat down. I'm looking to impose my will on the rest of the Stratego world. Is that enough of a challenge? I'm knocking out all comers!

Todd
Jacksonville, FL
FSUKXAZ@excite.com

July, 2005

Hi Ed,

Your links page at http://www.edcollins.com/stratego/stratego-links.htm has a broken link to my Stratego article. The URL points to an old server at Apple (penumbra) which hasn't been active since 2001.  : )

The current URL for my Stratego page is here: http://homepage.mac.com/thecloud/stratego.html.

While the content isn't exactly current (last updated five years ago!), all the pages are there. Eventually I may even get around to updating them.

Also, I just noticed I have a broken link to YOUR old page at the bottom of mine. Whoops! Will get that fixed ASAP.
By the way, your site is really impressive; it's grown quite a bit in the past five years.

A comment on the initial piece setups:

The first 13 setups are all taken from the Accolade 1990 PC program. 
Many people have pointed out to me most of these 13 are horrible. I agree.

Heh. So do I, actually. The person responsible for those was the game's producer at Accolade, who decided (relatively late in the project, as I recall) that we needed to include a bunch of canned opening setups. I can take credit for "Corner Fortress" and "Blitzkrieg!", which were my preferred defensive & offensive setups at the time (with some minor variations), but the rest were his contributions. Will have to include that note on my page. ; )

Thanks,

Ken McLeod

July, 2005

Dear Ed,

 
Please contact me regarding the game Stratego.  Our office is located in Portland Oregon.  We represent the estate of Gunter Elkan.  Our deceased client copyrighted Strategy in the US and Canada.  We need a Stratego game expert to assist us with our case.  Could you please contact my office so that we could discuss the case.
 
Sincerely,
 

Thompson & Bogran
Roy B. Thompson
15938 SW Quarry Rd.
Suite B-6
Lake Oswego, Or    97035
503-245-6600 wk
503-381-9945  cell
503-244-8399  Fax

July, 2005

Hi Ed,

My name is Alejandro López.

I am a 33 year old computer programmer from Ensenada Mexico.  I first discovered Stratego at a neighbor's house around the year 1980. There was only one board with some pieces missing, and at least a dozen thirteen-year-old’s waiting in line to play. Thus, getting a turn was hard.  The competition was grueling and the pressure was even worse. That very same Christmas I received my very own board, which I carried around searching for adversaries. Very soon I had beaten my mom, my grandma, my cousins, neighbors, and the sons of my parent's friends. Sometime after that I found a friend that enjoyed the game as much as I did and we shared many great battles under the shade of a fig tree.

This game has given me great satisfaction. It developed my intelligence, my savvy.  It gave me a taste for competition and a lot of nail biting victories.

Recently I was chatting with an old friend from junior high school via an internet Messenger conversation and remembered that he was the only one that ever beat me consistently. I immediately felt compelled to search the word Stratego on the internet, and your site was the first one to come up.  I almost cried.  This game is one of the things I truly have enjoyed in my life.

I noticed you have a piece-setup section. I do remember the initial setup being one of the key pieces of the game. My style was that of reconnaissance, then control and opening supply lines and then the final assault. I was fairly incommunicado from the rest of the world during my playing years.  I wonder how my strategies compare with that of the rest of the worlds?  Well, with your permission I will go ahead and take a look at your site and find out.

Hey, have you ever thought of an online Stratego game?

Regards,

Alejandro

July, 2005

Very nice web site.  

I've attached photos of a Stratego game I recently found.  I can't find anyone that's ever seen it.  Nothing like it on eBay, including completed auctions.  Have you seen it?

There is no copyright date anywhere and it's missing the rules.  It looks to me like it's from at least the 1950s.  I'd say it certainly pre-dates the known 1961 one.  The pieces are wood but notice the significant differences....

1.  The pieces aren't numbered 1-9, etc., like all versions including the 1961 one with wood pieces.

2.  The illustrations of most of the soldiers are very different then even the 1961 wood pieces.

3.  The game board is very different in that all other versions have the photos, etc. of the army at each end of the board.  This just has trees.  I've attached a scan of 1/2 the game board.

4.  Obviously the box is completely different.  The scan attached is only about 3/4 of the box.  The bottom 1/4 is two large flags.   I think it's also longer then the 1960's boxes (17 1/2").

5.  This does not have the trays for the pieces but rather cool looking boxes for each.  I've attached a scan of the top and bottom of these.  The top has a window.  The bottom has illustrations identifying the pieces and the number of each.

Note on the bottom of the pieces box that there are four different languages (English, German, French and Swiss?).  I suspect this game was made in Europe somewhere.  The small line at the bottom of the game board below the Stratego title reads:  Wettig ged. - Marque dep. (with an accent over e in dep) - Gesetzl. gesch. - Regd. 77543 - 209823 - 778395.   None of that appears to be in English except for possibly Regd. being an abbreviation for Registered which could also be the abbreviation for that word in other languages.  I think the three numbers could be three different registrations rather than one.  That line also appears on the lid.  There is nothing at all indicating who made the game except for a small elephant logo near the bottom of the lid with the word "Jumbo" on his side.  You can see this logo on the scan of the game board as well.  The bottom of the box is blank except for this logo again.  Nothing at all on the end and side panels of the lid except for the Stratego logo on each end.

So, what do you think?  I noticed on your site that the 1961 version by Milton Bradley you note it says "INTRODUCING The Popular OLD WORLD GAME of SKILL and STRATEGY."

That phrase would seem to indicate Milton Bradley is producing, for the first time, a remake of a much older game produced somewhere else...

Mike

July, 2005

Hi Ed !
 
First of all my congratulations for your Stratego site!  It is absolutely great and I have respect for the time and energy that you did put into this piece of art.
I myself was born in 1960 and have played Statego for a long time now.  I only recently started to collect the different versions.
 
I read Mike's message (directly above) concerning his questions about his recently purchased Stratego game. I can only tell him what I know or think to know:
 
Mike, you've got a Dutch (from Holland, the Netherlands) Stratego game with wooden pieces. The game was published by Jumbo but I am not sure of the exact year - I think early 1960.  I have the same version but without the original manual.
 
On the bottom of the box which contain the pieces, the ranking is shown - above the ranking in English and Dutch, underneath the ranking in French and German. MB was licensed by Jumbo (= Hausemann & Hötte) to introduce Stratego in the States.
 
For the exact story of Stratego, just read the messages in Ed's Stratego Site.  Even a grandson of the Dutch "inventor" sent Ed a message!
 
Hopefully this answers a few of your questions.
 
Regards from the Netherlands and good luck,

Rob

 

 

 

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